A human-powered turntable for low budget, low tech theater companies.
by Peter Konopak, Allan Robins, and James Wojciehowski
Back in November of 2010 my friends Alan and Jim, my wife, my son, and my son's theater teacher/ director/ sister-a-different-set-of-parents and I were all sitting around the dinner table when sister announced it was her intention to stage the Broadway version of Les Miserables. This surprised none of us, because she has a penchant for doing big, no-BIG things. She said she wanted to do the things right, complete with the famous barricade and revolving stage. How, we wondered, was she to accomplish this? "Yes", she wondered, "How are we going to do this?" And so it began.
The first thing to do was to search the web and see what had already been done. This turned up precious little. I am, however, indebted to the Drama Department at BHS in Burlington, WV for the pictures of their turntable. It gave us a good place to start.
What follows is the plan for making a sixteen foot diameter turntable, drive mechanism, and ramp assembly.
First, the physical plant of the stage is 46 feet wide, with two-eight foot wings, total width 64 feet.
The stage is 26 feet wide from psychlorama to footlights. The floor is hardwood (Inviolate) with a 1/4" laminar covering. The play needed three feet between the turntable and the footlights. The turntable must, perforce sit ON the stage, may not be screwed to it, and be low enough that stage pieces may be easily rolled on and off. Ramps would have to be designed to allow this.
At first we thought we would be able to motorize this thing, but looking at the cost of motors strong enough to drive the table soon put that idea out of our heads. We needed to keep the cost of the turntable as low as possible, the drama department has no budget; all expenses are paid with the proceeds of previous plays.
Once we told the director that she was limited to manually operated equipment, an idea which she was
ok with, we started working on the idea of just how it was going to turn.
The director wanted as large a disc as possible: we settled on 16 feet. This gave a few feet in front of the footlights for actors and a few feet behind for set pieces and movement behind. It was also convenient because of the dimensions of sheets of plywood, and simplified construction.
Borrowing heavily from Burlington High School’s design, we came up with the following:
Stage plot for Les Mis @ Sherman E. Burroughs HS |
A center piece of 1/2 ( 15/32’s actually, nobody makes 1/2 “ plywood anymore, chiseling cheapskates) cut into a four foot circle. In the very center, screwed in from the bottom and glued to the top, is a 18” 2x8, with a galvanized 3/4 female pipe flange screwed onto it. A 4 inch galvanized nipple was used a spindle, around which the table would turn.
Illus. A Center piece with spindle |
Next we took 1x4 composite “wood” boards( Next time I’d use Doug fir) 1 x 4 and cut them 6 ft lengths. These would radiate out from the center at 45 degree angles.
Illus. B Spokes and Spider |
Next we connected each of the spokes with two stringers of more 1 x 4. One stringer joined the outside edge of all spokes together. The other stringer was placed 3 feet from the centerpiece. The completed structure resembled a spiderweb, and was duly christened so. We realized that the spiderweb would adequately support the circular turntable along the chords of the circle, but not at the circumference.
We secured 6” “spurs” to the midpoints of each of the outside stringers, which would then give support to the circumference of the table. In hindsight we decided that triangles would be better, as they would be less likely to be pulled away from the stringer. ( This happened more than once, if the drive rope came off the gears, we called it being casterated.
Illus. C Spider web with triangular stingers |
Next we attached 90 , 2-1/2 swivel casters.
4 on the centerpiece, six on each spoke, one on each of the inner stringers midpoint, two on the on the outside stringer equidistant from the midpoint, and one on each spur. We don’t recommend using casters with locks.
Illus. D Nail plates at Spider joints. |
We used 3/4 “ coarse thread drywall screws. Also, for ease of reconstruction every joint was labelled.
Each spoke was given a letter, with each stringer given a number. Care should be taken to not set the screws too deep, as a stripped screw doesn’t hold as well as one which isn’t.
Illus. E A better view of the spider and spindle |
Illus. F Note: we didn't use the triangular spikers in the middle of each stringer. I advise YOU to use them. |
Illus. G This shows Humpty cut out and joints taped. Below are the patterns for setting out the lumber preparatory for cutting. |
We shot 1" coarse thread drywall screws through the top and into the bottom, every screw was six inches from its nearest neighbor NOTE: because the material was 15/32 rather than half inch, we were forced to grind the top 1/16 “ inch of every screw. This was necessary because the screws were now too long, and would protrude onto the roller surface. Next, we used a piece of pipe with a nail through it and a sharpie at the other end, and set up a compass, and traced a circle. A sabre saw was used to cut a 16 foot, two ply disc. A 3/4 inch hole was drilled through the center point for the center spindle to fit through. The two parts, base and top were christened Humpty and Dumpty.
Illus. H This shows how the pieces overlaid oneanother. This picture is actually taken at tear down. |
Illus. I This shot shows the two plys of wood, the lay of the rope in the cog, and the cog itself. |
In this picture you can see how the two plys fit together. A piece of doweling was stuck in the center flange, and with one strong thespian at every point of the clock, Humpty was carefully lifted and laid on Dumpty, the dowel marking where the center was. The dowel was removed, and the spindle was inserted and screwed into place. Voila. The table is complete. Now we had to design the manually powered gear drive.* Here is the complete table, with ramps. Humpty looks scuffed, because this picture was taken after 3 weeks of rehearsals and 8 shows.
Illus. J Completed table & ramps |
Illus. K 78 feet of rope with notes & splices visible |
On the circumference of the disk, humpty, we screwed every foot, a cog made out of dadoed and beveled 2 x 4. Each piece was 6 inches long. Each screw had a pilot hole to keep the wood from splitting when screwed into the bottom of humpty.
Cog with rope cup, screw points, showing bevel |
The number of casters made the whole stage relatively easy to turn. When empty, a 16 year old girl was able to turn it overspeed( 30 -35 rpm). When the stage was loaded with the props for the barriacde scene for Les Mis, and 14 actors of varying sizes it took a strong hand to move it at speed, which was one full turn in about 30 seconds.
tensioners bind point
We soon discovered that the knots were getting bound in the cogs at the point where the rope
left the disk. We improvised a series of tensioners. Each was composed of a cast iron wheel, which at some time might have held either a volleyball pole or a lighting rig. They were threaded to 1 1/2. So we placed them at three points on the loop. They made it possible for one person to move the table without a second person keeping proper tension on the “feed”
About this time you are asking yourself” How did you keep the puller out of sight”. In this theater there is a void behind the psych. We were able to raise the psych a foot or so, since it was behind
Illus. L Backstage hub of tensioner assy. We DID screw this one lightly into the laminate flooring. The tape shows the proper angle of attack for the rope out to the stage. |
Illus. N Another view. You can see the two slits in the backdrop. When the stage was lit for production you could see them, but only if you were looking for them and knew where to look. |
The very last part of the stage were the ramps. They were made of 2 x 6 x 6 foot which were ripped diagonally, and then had two layers of flake board screwed to them. The leading edges of the ramps were sanded as close to flush as we could make them, to allow large set pieces to be wheeled onto them.
Illus. O The leading edge of the ramp. |
Illus. P Inside front view of the ramps. |
Illus. Q The Ramp and Stage meet. The tape was there to let the Stage manager see when the table was set to its optimum | position. |
Just as an aside, the thing worked just fine! And it has been taken down and is being stored, ready for use again.
Supplies: 24 sheets of 4x8 31/32" flakeboard.
128 lf 1x4 pine or Doug fir
96 2 1/2 non-locking, swivel casters
8 2x 6 x 8' pine or Doug fir
1 sheet 31/32 plywood ac
32 4 x 6" nail plates
5# 1" drywall screws
gaffers tape
paint
Total cost @ $ 900 ( 2010)
So there you have it. My friends and I hope this will help you. What you do to this will be of more than passing interest to us all.
Peter Konopak
Theater Dad for Burroughs High School Drama Department
Ridgecrest, CA
Thank you so much for sharing this! I am a playwright and I have been looking for a low budget way to build a rotating stage (to no avail). I will study what you have posted. One question, how long did it take to build it?
ReplyDeleteI really appreciate you taking the time to post this. I would like to make some comments and questions, if I could. First of all, great undertaking. This really looked like it was a fun build. I question, however, your use of OSB - Oriented Strand Board (what you refer to as "flakeboard"). Not only it is NOT lighter than its equivalent in plywood, as you claim, but it is not something that really it strong enough for multiple uses. Screws pull through it MUCH easier than ply and when it begins to fail...it just falls apart. Cheaper, THAT it is...and if this was a budgetary concern I don't blame you in the least. 24 sheets at $8 is much better than 24 sheets at $20. On a practical side, OSB swells a little with age. If this, or anything else made of OSB, were stored for a few years and were exposed to any level of humidity it would be practically unusable when you got around to it again. Other than cost plywood is the superior building choice on almost all levels.
ReplyDeleteYou never cover what the actual drive mechanism was, other than it being manual. Was it simply someone pulling the rope? Is that what the knots are for? If so how did you keep tension? How easy was it to move when you were all done? How many people did it take? Here is the main question. After you finished it, what did you think to yourself that you would do differently if you had to build another one. Again, thanks for your time in putting all of this together. (Oh, btw, it is spelled "cyc" not "psych." It is short for "cyclorama.")
Oh, one more thing. If you were to do this again you might consider fixed (or "dumb") casters instead of the swivel kind. You would have to mount them perpendicular to the radius of the circle as you went around. Not only are they much cheaper than the "smart" castors you wouldn't have any issues with swiveling the smart casters if you decided to rotate the state the opposite way.
Thanks for the design! I dont know if you still get comments from this site so I'll try to track you down...but see what we did with your plans...http://pats-addition.blogspot.com/2014/05/dont-reinventadapt.html...at TC Williams HS (Remember the Titans) Alexandria Virginia.
ReplyDeleteThis post focuses on a general strategy for designing and building a sturdy rotating revolving platforms which turns easily with a heavy load.
ReplyDeleteI have a performing group that goes to different schools to put on plays, and we perform on a portable stage. I think that if we had a revolving piece then it could add some great effects to our plays. Do you think this would be possible on a portable stage platform? http://www.thestagedepot.com/portable_stages_for_sale_s/3.htm
ReplyDeleteThe revolving stages that I helped to build according to this method worked well enough that when fully loaded, one reasonably strong person could rotate it by hand. Very helpful post. Keep it up!
ReplyDeletethink I could double this to 32' and it could handle 30 dancers?
ReplyDeleteHow large was your stage your built your revolving stage on?
ReplyDeleteI am amazed that this worked at all considering the use of swivel casters in a captive system as swivel casters demand lateral movement to change direction of rotation (back up with a shopping cart to see the swivel wheels move to the side so as to swivel to the new direction). Most often swivel casters used in such a system bind to the point of system failure. "Rigid" casters are less expensive and solve for the danger.
ReplyDeleteGrammar, vocabulary, tenses, indirect speech, passive sentences must always be keep in mind while writing a blog. Everyone must read this blog. This is going to help everyone.
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Thanks for putting this online
ReplyDeleteWe build our own revolving stage using all of the internet info
this is how it turned out:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PmgJ7AJAZNo
I can't tell you how much we appreciate your information and illustrations/photos from this project. We just finished doing Sweeney Todd with our high school (North Forney High-Forney, TX) and our director wanted the barbershop to be above the furnace room with that and the pie shop ALL on a revolving stage. With modifications and lots of work we did it. THANKS
ReplyDeleteUn giratorio se hace con ruedas fijas! No giratorias. Así es muy difícil cambiar el sentido.
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